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if you just wanted to borrow something like their calculator, or the
neat little task manager, you would need to install almost the entire desktop environment. for one little program.

Ditto for Gnome - when I ran Lubuntu, loading a single nifty applet
would need a ton of supporting files and libraries. I don't recall if
the *second* applet was any lighter...



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Hey Nightfox!

On Thu, Feb 05 2026 20:24:47 -0600, you wrote:

It looks like there are two versions of KUbuntu released at any
given time: One is a LTS (long term support) release which is
supposed to be more stable, and another is their more cutting-edge
version with newer versions of things. I'm using the one that has
the newer versions (currently, 25.10).

Ah yes, that would explain it, and I didn't even think about that during this discussion.

Linux Mint is based on Ubuntu, so I believe it uses the same
repositories of software. And Linux Mint probably uses the ones
that Ubuntu LTS uses, so IMO it's no surprise that it has the older
version of KDE. I believe the current KUbuntu LTS version also has
KDE 5.x (according to their web site).

That makes sense. I haven't followed anything *buntu related in quite awhile, so thanks for the reminder.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: Accession to Nightfox on Tue Feb 03 2026 06:12 pm

Why not? You can install any desktop environment on any Linux distro. You

Word. I'm using OpenBox with Ubuntu Server on my laptop.

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: fusion to Accession on Thu Feb 05 2026 02:00 am

Mint at all, so nobody maintains anything KDE for Linux Mint. somehow i doub anyone would have much luck convincing the KUbuntu package maintainers to fi something just for Linux Mint.

One way around this is to build from source.. and an easy way of doing that is, install the src package for the thing you want to build. The package manager will install all of the libraries and other requirements. Then get the source from .. the source (KDE's website or github repo or whatever) .. and build
that following the README.

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: fusion to poindexter FORTRAN on Thu Feb 05 2026 02:03 am

KDE is nasty IMO

The old one was. It was held together by strings. The new one, Plasma, seems pretty nice.

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: phigan to fusion on Mon Feb 09 2026 08:00 am

Mint at all, so nobody maintains anything KDE for Linux Mint. somehow i
doub anyone would have much luck convincing the KUbuntu package maintainers
to fi something just for Linux Mint.

One way around this is to build from source.. and an easy way of doing that is, install the src package for the thing you want to build. The package manager will install all of the libraries and other requirements. Then get the source from .. the source (KDE's website or github repo or whatever) .. and build that following the README.

Could that complicate things on Linux distros that use a package manager? If you get the source and build it, the package manager would be unaware that that software is installed, so if you upgrade your OS to a newer version, that software might no longer work as there may now be different versions of libraries installed that it's incompatible with, etc.. Also I imagine you could also (perhaps accidentally) install the same packages from the package manager and cause issues, maybe? And I'm not sure if there would be a clean way to remove it if you wanted to.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: phigan to fusion on Mon Feb 09 2026 08:01 am

KDE is nasty IMO

The old one was. It was held together by strings. The new one, Plasma, seems pretty nice.

Yeah, I hadn't used KDE for years until recently when I tried Plasma. I think KDE Plasma is nice.

Nightfox

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Re: Re: Kde Plasma Desktop Vs. Ci
By: Nightfox to phigan on Mon Feb 09 2026 08:30 am

Could that complicate things on Linux distros that use a package manager? I

Yes, a little. You'd have to remember that you manually built that one thing and keep updating it from source, should its dependencies get updated and it no longer runs. Of course, compiling statically would alleviate most of that too :). By default, stuff you build manually wants to put itself in /usr/local, so if you were to install the same package you could still remove or use either. You'd have to purposely install the source-built one in /usr to have the package manager one interfere (again, mostly.. depends on what it is).

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