I am trying to assist a downlink on an FTN network. They used the "fidonet
configuration script" to set the network up and I am not sure where it puts the
data that I would normally put in data/AREAS.BBS. Is that where it lists the
uplinks for FTN echoes, or do they go somewhere else now?

Also, I am not sure how he ran it but he may have encountered a bug where it is
always putting his aka for one network (in this case, FSXnet) into the scfg
message base entry for all FTN echos from all networks (in this case, including
Micronet). I let him know he may need to drop by here and explain that one
better as it could be user error.

Thanks!
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Re: fidonet configuration script
By: Dumas Walker to All on Tue Oct 22 2024 04:24 pm

> I am trying to assist a downlink on an FTN network. They used the "fidonet
> configuration script" to set the network up and I am not sure where it puts
> the data that I would normally put in data/AREAS.BBS. Is that where it
> lists the uplinks for FTN echoes, or do they go somewhere else now?

By default, SBBSecho has "AutoAddSubs" enabled - no area file is needed.
https://wiki.synchro.net/util:sbbsecho#area_file


> Also, I am not sure how he ran it but he may have encountered a bug where it
> is always putting his aka for one network (in this case, FSXnet) into the
> scfg message base entry for all FTN echos from all networks (in this case,
> including Micronet). I let him know he may need to drop by here and explain
> that one better as it could be user error.

Here's the script
https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/blob/master/exec/init-fidonet.js


I don't think it sets AKAs for sub-boards at all.
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> Here's the script
> https://gitlab.synchro.net/main/sbbs/-/blob/master/exec/init-fidonet.js


> I don't think it sets AKAs for sub-boards at all.

Thanks. I think he has it figured out but this is useful info if the
subject comes up again (and I remember asking the question this time!).


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Re: fidonet configuration scr
By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Oct 23 2024 08:31 am

It was really odd. It mixed my fsxNet amd micronet names together.

ex. fsxnet_test_min_test

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Re: fidonet configuration scr
By: StingRay to Dumas Walker on Wed Oct 23 2024 07:57 pm

> Re: fidonet configuration scr
> By: Dumas Walker to DIGITAL MAN on Wed Oct 23 2024 08:31 am
>
> It was really odd. It mixed my fsxNet amd micronet names together.
>
> ex. fsxnet_test_min_test

Maybe provide an example (from your ctrl/msgs.*.ini files) to illustrate what
you're trying to say. "names" could refer to area/echo tags, internal codes, short names, or long names (descriptions), or maybe even something else.

If there's an issue, I'd like to get to the bottom of it and resolve it, but I'll need more information to go on.
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Understood,

In my areas.bbs file example:

micronetfsxretro FSX_RETRO 618:250/1
micronetfsx_net FSX_NET 618:250/1

-StingRay
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Re: fidonet configuration scr
By: StingRay to Digital Man on Thu Oct 24 2024 08:21 am

> Understood,
>
> In my areas.bbs file example:
>
> micronetfsxretro FSX_RETRO 618:250/1
> micronetfsx_net FSX_NET 618:250/1

init-fidonet.js, the script in question, does not create an areas.bbs file: an area file, e.g. areas.bbs, is not strictly required for SBBSecho use.

That said, the first "word" of each line in the SBBSecho area file is the internal code of the message base (sub-board) that you're "mapping" to FidoNet areas/echoes. The "prefix" part of the internal codes comes from the target message group's configured "internal code prefix" (as you have set in SCFG), so it sounds like the FSX echolist was imported into the "micronet" message group. I don't see anything obvious in the init-fidonet script that would cause this, but I'll play with it and see if I can reproduce any odd behavior like that.
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Re: fidonet configuration scr
By: Digital Man to StingRay on Thu Oct 24 2024 10:53 am

> Re: fidonet configuration scr
> By: StingRay to Digital Man on Thu Oct 24 2024 08:21 am
>
> > Understood,
>
> > In my areas.bbs file example:
>
> > micronetfsxretro FSX_RETRO 618:250/1
> > micronetfsx_net FSX_NET 618:250/1
>
> init-fidonet.js, the script in question, does not create an areas.bbs file:
> an area file, e.g. areas.bbs, is not strictly required for SBBSecho use.
>
> That said, the first "word" of each line in the SBBSecho area file is the
> internal code of the message base (sub-board) that you're "mapping" to
> FidoNet areas/echoes. The "prefix" part of the internal codes comes from the
> target message group's configured "internal code prefix" (as you have set in
> SCFG), so it sounds like the FSX echolist was imported into the "micronet"
> message group. I don't see anything obvious in the init-fidonet script that
> would cause this, but I'll play with it and see if I can reproduce any odd
> behavior like that.

I experimented with the init-fidonet.js script and could not reproduce what you're describing: I first initialized the Micronet network and the script created the "Micronet" message group in SCFG->Message Areas with the "MIN_" internal code prefix and then imported the network's echo list correctly (each sub-board's internal as expected: MIN_ADMIN, MIN_BBS, MIN_CHAT, etc.). So I don't know where you got your "micronet" internal code prefix from - not from that script.

I then initialized fsxNet using the script and it created the "fsxNet" message group in SCFG->Message Areas with the "FSX_" Internal Code Prefix and then imported its echo list correctly, each sub-board with the expected internal code prefix: FSX_GEN, FSX_BBS, FSX_ENG, etc.

And no areas.bbs file created (or used).

So I'm not sure what you're doing.
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> Re: fidonet configuration scr
> By: Digital Man to StingRay on Thu Oct 24 2024 10:53 am

> I experimented with the init-fidonet.js script and could not reproduce what
> you're describing: I first initialized the Micronet network and the script
> created the "Micronet" message group in SCFG->Message Areas with the "MIN_"
> internal code prefix and then imported the network's echo list correctly
> (each sub-board's internal as expected: MIN_ADMIN, MIN_BBS, MIN_CHAT, etc.).
> So I don't know where you got your "micronet" internal code prefix from - not
> from that script.

> I then initialized fsxNet using the script and it created the "fsxNet"
> message group in SCFG->Message Areas with the "FSX_" Internal Code Prefix and
> then imported its echo list correctly, each sub-board with the expected
> internal code prefix: FSX_GEN, FSX_BBS, FSX_ENG, etc.

> And no areas.bbs file created (or used).

> So I'm not sure what you're doing.
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> Rush quote #81:
> Catch the witness, catch the wit, catch the spirit, catch the spit
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It only did it the one time. I could not replicate and once I removed the sub
areas, it did not happen again.

I did not look for it initially, so it had me in circles at first.

All I know is that it works now! :) So.... YAY for that.... lol

But, I have no idea who, what, why, or how it happened to begin with.

-StingRay

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So, I retraced my steps and my notes (thank goodness for those)

After I used the Fidosetup, I ran SBBSECHO with the -r command.

-StingRay

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