• x64 or x86 for new install?

    From Carpetgunk@VERT to All on Friday, April 11, 2025 12:13:59
    Hey folks,

    I've been working on a new SBBS install on a 64-bit Win Server 2025 instance in AWS, and selected the 16-bit program support when I installed Synchronet, and installed NTVDMx64 as well. But, before I get any further down the road and before I start installing any doors, are there any thoughts on whether or not this environment should be okay for the BBS and doors, or should I turn back and go a 32-bit route?

    Thanks!

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  • From Digital Man@VERT to Carpetgunk on Friday, April 11, 2025 12:21:46
    Re: x64 or x86 for new install?
    By: Carpetgunk to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 12:13 pm

    > Hey folks,
    >
    > I've been working on a new SBBS install on a 64-bit Win Server 2025 instance
    > in AWS, and selected the 16-bit program support when I installed Synchronet,
    > and installed NTVDMx64 as well. But, before I get any further down the road
    > and before I start installing any doors, are there any thoughts on whether
    > or not this environment should be okay for the BBS and doors, or should I
    > turn back and go a 32-bit route?

    I had some issues with NTVMx64 on Windows 11
    https://github.com/leecher1337/ntvdmx64/issues/240
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    Installing (CCPU version) on Windows 11 (Build 2262.2283) causes Sign-on options and other auth-related failures · Issue #240 · leecher1337/ntvdmx64
    Reproduced this twice on fresh installs of Windows 11 Pro. After (and only after) installing CCPU build of ntvdmx64 (running usa/install.bat from an admin console), and rebooting: the Windows Setti...


    But if everything seems okay with the system after you installed it (NTVDMx64), then you should be good to go!

    I do recall having weird numeric output in Tradewars 2002 when using NTVDMx64, perhaps that issue is now resolved in the latest version.
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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Carpetgunk on Friday, April 11, 2025 15:44:39
    Re: x64 or x86 for new install?
    By: Carpetgunk to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 12:13 pm

    > Hey folks,
    >
    > I've been working on a new SBBS install on a 64-bit Win Server 2025
    >
    > instance
    > in AWS, and selected the 16-bit program support when I installed Synchronet,
    > and installed NTVDMx64 as well. But, before I get any further down the road
    > and before I start installing any doors, are there any thoughts on whether
    > or not this environment should be okay for the BBS and doors, or should I
    > turn back and go a 32-bit route?

    You should absolutely run it in a windows 10 32bit environment in a vm.
    I wouldn't trust some hacked ntvdm. furthermore, some windows update could come by and either remove it or bork something.

    I think running it in a 32bit vm is the smart thing to do if you want to run doorgames. Not only that, but running it in a vm makes it easy to work with and backup.

    I run several bbses at once and what i learned is you should eliminate what can go wrong. Perhaps in the future we will have a better alternative for 64bit oses.
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  • From Dan Clough@VERT to MRO on Friday, April 11, 2025 16:29:57
    -=> MRO wrote to Carpetgunk <=-

    MR> Re: x64 or x86 for new install?
    MR> By: Carpetgunk to All on Fri Apr 11 2025 12:13 pm

    MR> I run several bbses at once and what i learned is you should eliminate
    MR> what can go wrong. Perhaps in the future we will have a better
    MR> alternative for 64bit oses.

    Newsflash!

    It's already here: Linux.



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