Hey,

I don't claim to be an expert in firearms (only started doing stuff with them
in VR for a while with a popular firearm simulator and only once handled an
actual gun), but could someone elaborate on the purpose of a AR Pistol?
Reason I ask is someone suggested that someone who was dealing with people
harassing their parents (after having their private info released on the
net), get one, citing their wife had one.

After a brief glimpse at a video explaining it, it still baffles me, why
would you get a AR Pistol for self defense (especially for new gun owners
when it's not only easier but better to get a pistol in comparable caliber
like .357 or .45 ACP. From what I know, it doesn't require waiting a year, nor
does it require a tax stamp.

Just wanted to get a few opinions.

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Re: AR Pistol?
By: Nodoka Hanamura to All on Sat Nov 02 2019 06:34 pm

> Hey,
>
> I don't claim to be an expert in firearms (only started doing stuff with the
> in VR for a while with a popular firearm simulator and only once handled an
> actual gun), but could someone elaborate on the purpose of a AR Pistol?
> Reason I ask is someone suggested that someone who was dealing with people
> harassing their parents (after having their private info released on the
> net), get one, citing their wife had one.
>
> After a brief glimpse at a video explaining it, it still baffles me, why
> would you get a AR Pistol for self defense (especially for new gun owners
> when it's not only easier but better to get a pistol in comparable caliber
> like .357 or .45 ACP. From what I know, it doesn't require waiting a year, n
> does it require a tax stamp.
>
> Just wanted to get a few opinions.
>
> Born too late to experience the scene.
> Born just in time to see it come back.
> Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io
>

The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is more
suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out federal
paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches,
however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The intent
behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pistol
one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's tech
division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your pistol
into a federally restricted SBR.

If that's confusing, let me know. The difference between haves and thigns
you can't have are based on poorly written descriptions. For a long time an
AK with under folder stock was restrcited in Michigan because it was below
the states limit of 31 inches, however above the federal level of 26.5
inches, so it could be registered as a pistol. Since it was considered a
pistol, technically it could be carried loaded and ready to fire in a
vehicle, the same way a pistol can be carried if you have a concealed pistol
license. When Michigan complied to federal descriptions, you could
grandfather the weapon over and have it treated as a pistol.

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On 03 Nov 2019, Moondog said the following...
Mo> The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is mor
Mo> suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out fede
Mo> paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches,
Mo> however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The intent
Mo> behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pisto
Mo> one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's tech
Mo> division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your pis
Mo> into a federally restricted SBR.

I see. I personally would rather have something like a .45 ACP in Close
quarters, but I can understand why Someone would want something with more
stopping power or in a rifle form.

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Re: Re: AR Pistol?
By: Nodoka Hanamura to Moondog on Sun Nov 03 2019 03:00 pm

> On 03 Nov 2019, Moondog said the following...
> Mo> The idea behind an AR pistol is to have a very compact version that is
> Mo> suitable for close quarters use. The perfect scenario is to fill out f
> Mo> paperwork to get a short barreled rifle with a barrel under 16 inches,
> Mo> however the workaround is an AR pistol with a shooting brace. The inte
> Mo> behind a Sig brace of other type of brace is to assist in shooting a pi
> Mo> one handed, however it can function as a stock, even though the ATF's t
> Mo> division declared it doesn't qualify as a stock, which would turn your
> Mo> into a federally restricted SBR.
>
> I see. I personally would rather have something like a .45 ACP in Close
> quarters, but I can understand why Someone would want something with more
> stopping power or in a rifle form.
>
> Born too late to experience the scene.
> Born just in time to see it come back.
> Nodoka Hanamura - NeoCincinnati BBS SYSOP - neocinci.bbs.io
>
A rifle is more stable than a handgun due to it's size. You have
several points of contact on the body. With a handgun you require more
training to properly aim and stabilize it since it's all in how you grip it
plus muscle memory insuring your sights line up consistently when you aim.
Having a longer sight radius on a rifle or SBR also increases accuracy and
effective range.

.45 acp has it's charms, however recoil from pocket pistols isn't one of
them. 9mm has earned it's popularity due to the fact you can put more shots
on target faster with 9 than a .45. .223 in a rifle/ sbr platform is
practical over a longer range due to it's high velocity, yet skews and loses
energy quickly when hitting a wall. It's safer to fire indoors than most
handgun rounds and shotgun slugs.

With all said and done, shot placement is the most important factor. Hitting
a vital zone the size of a grapefruit consistently under stress requires a
bit of practice and being familair with what you are shooting.

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