So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who else makes an affordable 20 guage semi?

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Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:48 pm

> So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
>
At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh el
se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name only
that's owned by Chiappa in Italy. If I had to guess they're made by Akkar in
Instanbul, Turkey. Chiappa has been importing their shotguns for awhile

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Re: New 20 gauge??
By: Moondog to HusTler on Sun Sep 22 2019 03:40 pm

> > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg.
> > Who
> At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh
> el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touch with todays brands.

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-=> HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-

> > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg.
> > Who
> At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythinh
> el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name

Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.

Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.

Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.



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Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to All on Sat Sep 21 2019 04:48 pm

> So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg. Who
> else makes an affordable 20 guage semi?

Hmmm. I don't know. Mossberg for me. The 930 SPX is a little spendy and I'm sure there are cheaper alternatives out there. I wasn't looking to buy a semi shotgun when I stumbled upon it. I ended up walking out with two firearms that day. :)

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am

> -=> HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-
>
> > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > Mossburg. Who
> > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a
> > brand name
>
> Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
>
> Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
>
> Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.

Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want the cheapest.

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

> > > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> > Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
>
> > Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
> > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
> Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want
> the cheapest.

Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun could it handle 100 rounds of trap shooting occasionally?

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Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to Moondog on Sun Sep 22 2019 07:49 pm

> Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: Moondog to HusTler on Sun Sep 22 2019 03:40 pm
>
> > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the Mossburg
> > > Who
> > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than anythi
> > el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're a brand name
>
> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so I'm outa touc
>
Remington isn't what t used to be. After the Cerberus /Freedom holdings
buyout in 2007, they among the other brands purchased began to drop in quality.
Remington claims they did some major retooling in their New York plant as
well as their Alabama facility, however I haven't heard any newer reviews

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am
>
> > -=> HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-
> >
> > > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > > Mossburg. Who
> > > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > > anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays they're
> > > brand name
> >
> > Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> > Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
> >
> > Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
> >
> > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
>
> Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want
>
Depends on how reliably and how often you want it to go bang. It's like
buying power tools. If you relied on your tools to make a living, would you
buy a Makita or Milwaukee, or would you buy the cheapest item at Harbor
Freight?

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:10 pm

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am
>
> > > > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > > Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> > > Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
>
> > > Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
> > > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
> > Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now
> > want the cheapest.
>
> Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun
> could it handle 100 rounds of trap shooting occasionally?

I don't see why not. I would definitely research a brand you are interested in buying first just to make sure.

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: Moondog to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:29 pm

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am
>
> > Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> > By: Gamgee to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 06:55 am
>
> > > -=> HusTler wrote to Moondog <=-
>
> > > > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > > > Mossburg. Who
> > > > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > > > anythinh el se. Not sure who makes them, since but nowadays
> > > > they're brand name
>
> > > Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> > > Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
>
> > > Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
>
> > > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
>
> > Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now
> > want
>
> Depends on how reliably and how often you want it to go bang. It's like
> buying power tools. If you relied on your tools to make a living, would you
> buy a Makita or Milwaukee, or would you buy the cheapest item at Harbor
> Freight?

I love the Harbor Freight analogy. Gets the point across everytime. :)

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am

> > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
>
> Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now want
> the cheapest.
>

I agree with the general idea, but on the other hand higher price does not automatically mean higher quality.

My father has one of those cop show Berettas, I think it is one of those worth 900-1000 USD. It is not bad but my father has more malfunctions during competitions than me with that one.

I have a "piece of junk" revolver from an obscure manufacturer that went bankrupt 30 years ago. The guy who sold it to me told me: "Its only good to put gypsy horse thieves on their knees and execute them point blank in the forest. If you hit anything at 25 meters with it you can consider yourself lucky". That thing costed me less than 200 bucks and only failed me once in a competition. The drum got stuck while reloading due to the heat so I had to close it by hitting it harder. I would not want to spend five seconds hitting the drum closed during a gunfight, but I am still getting better downtime that people with expensive guns.

Spend smart, not hard.

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 02:10 pm

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am
>
> > > > > So who makes the cheapest 20 gauge semi? I've looked at the
> > > > At Rural King I saw a Charles Daly semi auto that was cheaper than
> > > Hu> Thanks. The last shotgun I purched was the Remington 1100 so
> > > Hu> I'm outa touch with todays brands.
> >
> > > Firearms brands really haven't changed much in recent decades.
> > > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
> > Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now wa
> > the cheapest.
>
> Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump shotgun
>
I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun
competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: Arelor to echto on Mon Sep 23 2019 05:46 pm

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: echto to Gamgee on Mon Sep 23 2019 07:36 am
>
> > > Cheapest may not be what you want. You get what you pay for.
> >
> > Yeah, when it comes to something going bang in your hand you might now wa
> > the cheapest.
> >
>
> I agree with the general idea, but on the other hand higher price does not a
>
> My father has one of those cop show Berettas, I think it is one of those wor
>
> I have a "piece of junk" revolver from an obscure manufacturer that went ban
> t 25 meters with it you can consider yourself lucky". That thing costed me l
> nd five seconds hitting the drum closed during a gunfight, but I am still ge
>
> Spend smart, not hard.
>
Price is not always a factor, however good engineering and good materials and
proper heat treating go a long way. While I'm not a dealer or have an FFL, I
do have access to manufacturer events held by wholesellers. There were some
brands I wouldn't have touched due to their price range, however after
shooting several firearms by Barrett, Sig, CZ, STI, Salient and Thompson
Center to name a few, and talk to their sales people and engineers, I realize
why some brands and models have popular appeal. When money is tight, you
have to pick and choose wisely. I'm trying to talk one of my dealer friends
into having another range event. He has a couple of Taran Tactical STI
Combat Masters on order. The John Wick series is great for product
placement.

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:45 pm

> > Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump
> > shotgun
>
> I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun
> competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli
>
Benelli!!!?? Good God man. How do you go from cheapest to a Benelli?? :-)

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Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
By: HusTler to Moondog on Thu Sep 26 2019 07:48 am

> Re: Re: New 20 gauge??
> By: Moondog to HusTler on Mon Sep 23 2019 09:45 pm
>
> > > Let me rephrase my question. If I purchased a "cheap" semi or pump
> > > shotgun
> >
> > I'm sure it would. If you were to compete or shoot 3 gin or multi-gun
> > competitively, I'd spend the extra $$ and get a Benelli
> >
> Benelli!!!?? Good God man. How do you go from cheapest to a Benelli?? :
>

As stated, if you want to compete and run your gear hard and expect it to go
bang, I'd choose a Benelli over a Mossberg or Remington. At least I didn't
mention Salient's Benelli package. Feels strange handling a $3400 USD
shotgun, and told by the sales rep to not worry about hurting it.

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